Posted on: November 1, 2011 6:45 am

If NASCAR Champions were determined by Wins

I have seen on some other boards people starting to gripe because Tony Stewart is behind Carl even though Tony has 3 wins in the chase and Carl hasn't won a race in the chase yet.  So I went back to 1972, (the modern era) and crowned the Champions by the total number of wins a driver had.  If Two drivers had the Same number of wins then I went by the number of top 5's a driver had to break the tie.  No points just wins and top 5's  Here are the results from 1972.

*after the name means that driver won the championship that year for real.

72 - Bobby Allison - 10
73 - David Pearson - 11
74 - Richard Petty* - 10
75 - Richard Petty* - 13
76 - David Pearson - 10
77 - Cale Yarborough*  - 9
78 - Cale Yarborough* - 10
79 - Darrell Waltrip - 7
80 - Cale Yarborough - 6
81 - Darrell Waltrip* - 12
82 - Darrell Waltrip* - 12
83 - Darrell Waltrip - 6
84 - Darrell Waltrip - 7
85 - Bill Elliott - 11
86 - Tim Richmond - 7
87 - Dale Earnhardt* - 11
88 - Rusty Wallace  - 6
89 - Darrell Waltrip - 6
90 - Dale Earnhardt - 9
91 - Harry Gant - 5
92 - Davey Allison - 5
93 - Rusty Wallace - 10
94 - Rusty Wallace - 8
95 - Jeff Gordon* - 7
96 - Jeff Gordon - 10
97 - Jeff Gordon*  - 10
98 - Jeff Gordon* - 13
99 - Jeff Gordon - 7
00 - Tony Stewart - 6
01 - Jeff Gordon - 6
02 - Matt Kenseth - 5
03 - Ryan Newman - 8
04  - Jimmie Johnson - 8
05 - Greg Biffle - 6
06 - Kasey Kahne - 6
07 - Jimmie Johnson - 10
08 - Carl Edwards - 9
09 - Jimmie Johnson* - 7
10 - Denny Hamlin - 8

Yes I acknowledge that drivers may have driven a little different if wins was all that counted.

I got my information from

I started with DW and then clicked on 1972 and then clicked on standings and hit next for each year after that. 

Starting with Bobby Allison here is how many championships each driver would have if the Champions were determined by wins:

Bobby Allison - 1
David Pearson - 2
Richard Petty - 2
Cale Yarborough - 3
Darrell Waltrip - 6
Bill Elliott - 1
Tim Richmond - 1
Dale Earnhardt - 2
Rusty Wallace - 3
Harry Gant - 1
Davey Allison - 1
Jeff Gordon - 6
Tony Stewart - 1
Matt Kenseth - 1
Ryan Newman - 1
Jimmie Johnson - 3
Greg Biffle - 1
Kasey Kahne - 1
Carl Edwards - 1
Denny Hamlin - 1

So those that think an additional 50 to 100 points should be added for each win look at how that would change the past if they put it to use.  Most here like Dale Senior and he'd only have 2 not 7.  Jeff would have 6,  DW 6 and JJ would still have 3. 

Posted on: April 21, 2011 11:51 am

Is Rick Hendrick setting up Junior Nation again?

In 2007 Junior Nation went crazy when Dale Earnhardt Junior signed with Hendrick Motor Sports (HMS). Junior came out strong with HMS and even won a race and made the chase.  But once in the chase things went down hill in a hurry and for the next 2 years Junior was a side show for TV and Media more than a contender to win races.

Now it's 2011 and Junior is a surprising 3rd in the points after 7 races and Junior Nation is going crazy once again, saying he is going to win X number of races this year and he's a contender for the Championship etc. etc. etc. 

However, I have another theory as to why Junior is doing well this season and will probably make the chase but then start his slide once again.  The theory is 2 fold so hold onto your hat.

Part 1 of the theory is that Junior's sales are going down.  While Junior still outsells all other drivers he sales are slowing down,  And for Rick this is not acceptable.  Rick wants that extra money so he can win championships with JJ and Jeff.  Also, as Junior sales decrease it means more winning drivers and controvisal drivers like Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick and others are gaining in the popularity ranks which may take an advantage that HMS appears to have with NASCAR away.

Part 2 and the heart of the matter in my opinion is Junior is in the 4th year of his 5 year contract and Rick wants him to extend for at least 3 more years and hopefully 5 more years.  Why, would he want this if he is not interested in Junior winning.  Well, read Part 1 for that answer.  Rick doesn't want another team to sign him and lose that 80 million plus a year that Junior brings to HMS.  So in order to get Junior re-energized he gives him a new crew chief and a little better equipment and Junior does well, regains his faith in HMS and extends his contract making Rick Hendrick a very happy and Wealthier man.  I'll even say as soon as Junior re-signs we will start to see the Junior of the last two years, starting to make endroads. 

What is going to be hard for Junior fans to swallow is Junior will extend this year.  Why? Because Rick want's to push that issue.  Reason?  Kasey Kahne is coming to HMS next season and when he does he will be the number 3 man at HMS and Junior will rate number 4 again. 

What happens if Junior does win a race this season?  Well, I would be happy for Junior and most of his fans.  It would be good for NASCAR as it would re-energize a particular fan base that is only in it because of Junior and the sport could use a shot in the arm in that direction.  However, if he wins like he did in Michigan, and I'm not talking fuel mileage as many a driver has won using that stratagy, but the fact that he broke the rules and NASCAR did nothing but give him a warning then I would have a hugh problem with that.

Anyway that is my rant as to why Junior is doing well so far this year.  It's all about the Money period.  Rick Loves it and he will bleed Junior dry getting it. 
Posted on: July 17, 2010 8:44 pm
Edited on: July 17, 2010 8:49 pm

Race for the chase with 2 Mulligans

NASCAR is talking about making changes to the chase.  Well my idea for changes would be to make changes to both the chase and the race to the chase.  And what I would implement is Mulligans.  2 Mulligans for the regular season and 1 for the chase.  Think about it, If the drivers could drop 2 races during the regular season it could make the race for the chase more interesting coming down the wire.  More interest would mean bigger turnouts and bigger ratings.  Right now you have maybe positions 10 - 15 fighting it out for a spot in the chase going into the last 3 or 4 races.  Now you could have positions 8 - 20 in that battle.  I did a spreadsheet for the regular season points and then one for the Mulligans there is a small differences, but the 20th place driver is within 180 points with the mulligans instead of being over 220 points out.  Difference is between positions. 

I'll try to update this weekly to show the changes in the standings with the mulligans;  Here's the results as of Chicago.

Driver                                          Points                  Difference                        

<colgroup span="1"></colgroup><col style="width: 100pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4864;" span="1" width="133"></col>Kevin Harvick                       2745                                     
Jeff Gordon                         2642                  -103             
Jimmie Johnson                   2557                  -85                     
Denny Hamlin                      2542                  -15                   
Kurt Busch                           2524                  -18                                         
Kyle Busch                           2488                  -36
Jeff Burton                           2465                  -23
Matt Kenseth                       2446                   -19
Tony Stewart                        2389                  -57
Carl Edwards                        2345                  -44
Greg Biffle                           2292                  -53
Clint Bowyer                         2286                  -6
Dale Earnhardt Jr.                 2271                  -15
Mark Martin                         2249                  -22
David Reutimann                 2190                   -59
Ryan Newman                     2187                    -3
Kasey Kahne                       2166                   -21
Jamie McMurray                   2105                   -61
Joey Logano                       2103                    -2
Martin Truex Jr.                   2060                   -43
Juan Pablo Montoya            2044                    -16
A J. Allmendinger                2021                    -23
Paul Menard                       1981                    -40
Scott Speed                        1838                    -143
David Ragan                       1836                    -2
Brad Keslowski                    1830                    -6
Elliott Sadler                       1750                     -80 
Marcos Ambrose                  1739                    -11
Sam Hornish Jr.                   1695                   -44
Regan Smith                       1599                   -96
Bobby Labonte                    1467                   -132
Robby Gordon                     1383                   -84
Travis Kvapil                       1303                   -80
David Gilliland                     1260                   -17
Kevin Conway                      1190                   -70

Difference between 8 and 20 (386 points)

Now what the points would look like with 2 Mulligans

Driver                                           Points                    Difference
Kevin Harvick                        2621
Jeff Gordon                          2495                 -126
Jimmie Johnson                    2442                 -53
Denny Hamlin                       2408                 -34
Kurt Busch                            2408                   0
Kyle Busch                            2394                 -14
Jeff Burton                           2306                 -88
Matt Kenseth                        2289                 -17
Carl Edwards                         2235                 -54
Tony Stewart                         2232                 - 3
Clint Bowyer                          2188                 -44
Greg Biffle                            2146                 -42
Dale Earnhardt Jr.                  2137                  -9
Mark Martin                           2127                 -10
David Reutimann                   2098                 -29
Ryan Newman                       2071                 -27
Kasey Kahne                         2059                 -12
Jamie McMurray                     2004                 -55
Joey Logano                         1985                  -19
Martin Truex Jr.                     1972                  -13
Juan Pablo Montoya               1943                 -29
A.J. Allmendinger                   1920                 - 23
Paul Menard                          1850                  -70
David Regan                          1735                 -115
Brad Keslowski                        1720                -15
Scott Speed                           1716                 -4
Marcos Ambrose                     1647                 -69
Elliott Sadler                           1632                -15
Sam Hornish Jr.                      1588                -44
Regan Smith                         1504                -84
Robby Gordon                        1383               -121
Bobby Labonte                       1381                -2
David Gilliland                        1260                -121
Travis Kvapil                           1243                -17
Kevin Conway                         1190                -53     

Difference between 8th and 20th (317 points)           
Category: Auto Racing
Tags: Chase, NASCAR
Posted on: February 15, 2010 10:42 pm
Edited on: February 16, 2010 12:57 pm

Is Dale Junior Back?

Before I go into the blog this is not a Hate on Junior blog nor is it a love fest with Junior, As an individual that is not a fan of Junior by any means, I will admit that he is good for this sport right now.  

Now to look at the question I posed. 

Dale Junior had a great run at Daytona, at least for the last 2 laps of the third Green White Checkered.  Now those who want to jump on me will ask why I pointed out that it was the last Green White Checkered, and I say I point it out because the other two he was no where to be found and if the Checkereds had flown before that last GWC then Junior would have finished around the mid to low teens. Maybe a 10th place finish.  But fortunately for Junior it didn't, we went 3 GWC and Junior drove the heck out of his car to finish second. 

But does that mean he is back?  Well, if you heard his interview after the race, one may say he is, because Junior said he was bummed by not finishing first.  Also, his voice showed some emotions so for Junior fans there was hope. 

On the other hand if you looked at earlier interviews the reaction was mixed, at least to this race fan.  Also, his defiance of Rick Hendrick and his clean cut image seems to be either a I don't care what the boss says or what is he going to do fire me attitude. 

On the plus side - He was able to manuver his car at Daytona like we have seen in the past on restirctor plate tracks.

On the minus side - He was only able to do this when the sun went down and the track tightened up. 

I know a lot of people want to say last year was a fluke, and maybe it was and hopefully it was if it is for the better ment of the sport.  But until he can prove that he can stay in the top 15 for the next 5 to 8 races then the jury will remain out. 

But we have to remember a bad race at California, if it happens, doesn't mean much either,  So lets wait until we get to 'Dega to proclaim Junior is all the way back and a chase contender or that he is back to the way things were 2009.  . 

Not saying Junior fans shouldn't rally around what he did at Daytona, because they should, their fans, but those fans should understand the rest of us will have the wait and see attitude and will point out things good and not so good and not try to bash them.

Here's to Fans and detractors alike may all of us be able to converse both way without too much mud slinging. 

Posted on: July 9, 2009 8:29 am

Mikeyfan's Mid Season Report Card - Toyota

Ok, here it is Toyota time, How will I rate myself?

Starting off with Joe Gibbs Racing:

Here was the pre-season outlook:

Outlook for Joe Gibbs Racing   You can lock in Kyle Bush and Denny Hamlin into your chase picture.  These two team are solid and should have another solid year.  The question remains the 20 car.  They are a wild card to make the chase, but I think Zippy and the gang should be happy with a solid top 20 run this season and think about the chase at a later time.  The biggest question for Joey is will we see the Joey we saw in the Nationwide series or the one that struggled in the cup series?

Well Kyle and Denny seem to be pretty much in the Chase with Kyle in 8th and Denny in 6th, however, either one can still fall out with some bad racing luck.  Joey on the other hand has pulled himself up to 20th place after a slow start.  Joey even won a rain shortened race this year.

GRADE - "A-"  I'm giving myself an "A-" only because the chase is so tight right now.  But for the most part I think I hit this prediction pretty good.

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  Look for Kyle and Denny to both make the chase and give a solid run for the title come chase time.

Next up Red Bull:  Here is their preseason outlook:

Outlook for Red Bull Racing  I see Brian Vickers as having a chance to sneak into the top 12 and make the chase, The bigger question is can he win a race for Toyota and Red Bull this season.  As for Scott Speed he needs to worry about staying in the top 30 this year, make every race and learn the tracks and drivers.  If he starts pressing to run with the "big dogs" he could find himself in the go or go homers after 5 races.

Although Brian is having a good season and has just resigned with Red Bull, it looks like he is going to come up short on the chase and the win?  Well, he has had a couple of strong runs only to have something happen to knock him out of the running.  As for Scott, well he has missed 3 races and is the go or go homers.

GRADE- "B+"  Although I was pretty much right on, on both drivers I gave myself a "B+" because of Brian falling short in the chase department.

Outlook for the remainder of the season: Brian just may get that elusive win for Red Bull, but Scott needs to step it up a bit.  Also, look for some sort of disarray as Red Bull tries to decide if they are going to stay with Toyota or go with Chevy next season. 

Next Up MWR This is the one everyone is waiting for:  Wink

Their preseason outlook:

Outlook for Michael Waltrip Racing I think the outlook is positive for MWR this season.  Look for Both David and Michael to have cars in Victory lane and both viaing for the chase.  I see a top 20 for both the 00 and the 55 and look for the 47 to have a good top 25 season.

This has been a fairly strong Season for MWR,  David is viaing for a chase spot, got his first win and the first win for MWR and Marcos is having a stronger year than most predicted and is sitting 18th in the points.  The only downfall was Michael, who after a strong start has dropped out of the top 30 in points. 

GRADE: "C+":  I gave myself a "C+" because of how Michael has run, if he had been higher or I wouldn't have been over excited at the beginning of the year I probably would have done better here.  The grade could have been higher but I down graded it because of my loyality to Michael I didn't want everyone to think I went too high.

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  Look for David to make the chase and for Marcos to keep hold of his top 20 standings.  Hopefully, with the signing of Martin Truex Jr. to drive the NAPA 56 next season, Michael will be able to relax and have more success.  I still say he will win a race this year. 


Last is Robby Gordon and the rest:  I am going to combine Robby with the rest and grade myself on the total group:

Outlook for Robby Gordon Racing Robby should finish somewhere between 22nd and 30th in points.  As always he will be a force on the Road Courses.

27 Kirk Shelmirdine - Kirk has done well in the past qualifying on the plate tracks but don't expect him to last the season.

34 Tommy Baldwin Racing - Tommy has Scott Riggs as a driver and has a solid chance of making the top 35.  A new team with a craft veteran crew chief as owner.  This team could surprise and end up in the top 30 by seasons end.

41 Jeremy Mayfield - Jeremy is starting his own team and has solid sponsorship with "Big Red" Soft drinks.  Jeremy is a good driver and could end up in the top 35 by seasons end.

64 Todd Bodine - "Cue Ball" is moving up from the trucks to tackle the Cup series once again.  If he has the proper backing and lands sponsorship he could contend for a top 25 spot.

66 Prism Motor Sports - With Terry Labonte and Dave Blaney driving for this team I hope they do well.  I like both drivers but with Phil Parsons just starting out this team will struggle making the top 35.  I hope they end the season in the top 35.

87 Joe Nemechek - After being ousted from Furniture Row, Joe is going to try it on his own.  I don't see him making it through an entire season, unless he can find some major sponsorship.

 Well Robby was a little high in my preseason predictions but everyone else is pretty much spot on.  With that I give myself:

GRADE: "B":  I over reached a little on Robby and a couple of other teams saying they had a chance at a top 35 spot so I downgraded myself to a "B".


Well there you have it Let me know how you think I did.

Category: Auto Racing
Tags: JGR, MWR, NASCAR, RBR, Toytoa
Posted on: July 8, 2009 6:48 pm

Mikeyfan's mid season report card (Ford)

Well, I got a lot of comments on my chevy Grades,  So let's see how I grade myself for the Ford Teams.

Starting with Roush Racing here is what I predicted:

Outlook for Roush Racing - With Carl Edwards and his talent Roush Racing should contend for the championship, the question really is how many cars with Roush field in the Chase.  This is Fords only hope in NASCAR and therefore, I see all the engineering help from Ford going to this team.

Roush currently has their three mainstays in the chase in Carl, Matt and Greg,  Jamie is in 19th but David is having a rough time in 30th.
So I think I did pretty good, Initially I said 2 drivers with Carl and Matt with Greg the wild card.  The wild card this year is RCR and their troubles.

Grade:  B:  I gave myself a B because anyone of the 3 could fall out of the chase with the points being this close and Carl not having won a race could be considered a major upset at this time.

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  Matt and Greg are the most vunderable for missing the chase and I think one of them will.  Roush seems to be a step behind where they were this time last year.

Next up Yates Racing

Here is what I had to say:

I pretty much nailed this one,  Bobby is sitting 27th in points and Paul is 31st.  Maybe they should have kept Travis Kvapil.

Grade:  A:  With these 2 struggling like I predicted I gave myself my first "A"

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  I don't see any improvement from this team and it's a shame because Yates used to be the powerhouse Ford team in NASCAR.

Last was the Wood Brothers and my prediction for them:

The outlook for the Wood Brothers is still the same but I will admit Bill Elliott has run fairly well when they do enter a race. 

Grade:  B:  I gave myself a "B" because we still haven't seen what is going to happen with this team in the future.

Well, there you have it my mid season report card for Ford.  How did I do?  Let me know

Outlook for Wood Brothers Racing   The Wood Brothers are at a crossroads this year.  Will they survive the cutbacks and the economic down turn?  Will they be able to survive only running a part time schedule?  Will they be able to secure sponsorship for the future?  Only the future can really tell us, here's hoping this team does survive and we will see them compete for wins again in the near future.


Outlook for Robert Yates Racing - I don't see any team from this organization competing for a spot in the chase.  In fact if both cars stay in the top 25 and get the bonus money at the end of the season they will have accomplished a lot, as not only is the funding not really there but the manufacture support will be at Roush and very little if any will be passed down to RYR.

Category: Auto Racing
Posted on: July 7, 2009 1:38 pm

Good Move On Mikeys Part

Well, for those of us who have rooted for Michael Waltrip, it is kind of a sad day as he announced that he is moving to a part time driver next season.  However, he also announced that Martin Truex Jr. Will be moving into the number 56 NAPA Toyota next year.  This in my opinion is a great move.  Martin is a 2 time Nationwide champion and has won a race at DEI.  He was in the chase in 2007 and I believe his struggles this year is basically do to him trying to secure a ride with a solid team for next season. 

The rumors have been flying since last year that Martin would be moving to a new team, with most speculating that it would be with Tony Stewart.  However, Michael made a move that was shrewed and opened the door to Martin.  That move was he hired Martin's little brother as a development driver.  You can tell Martin has a lot of love for his little brother just listening to him talk about his win at Watkins Glen and maybe the chance to race as a teammate with him was a clincher to move to MWR.  That and the fact that he sees the 00 running up front and viaing for a spot in the chase was all he needed.

For those who have not seen the MWR shop, if you ever get the chance take the tour.  All areas are open to the public to be seen except on area, the expermint booth.  They have guides to tell you what is going on, you can even say hi to the crew members and they will acknowledge you.  It is a first class shop and for it to be so well run and less than 3 years old shows, Michael did it the right way. 

So to Michael and Martin, I say good luck, Michael, you picked a great driver and I'm sure we will see that NAPA Toyota in victory lane next season. 
Category: Auto Racing
Posted on: July 7, 2009 7:07 am
Edited on: July 7, 2009 8:43 am

Mikeyfan's Mid Season Report Card - (Chevy)

Well, it's mid season so lets see how I grade myself on my preseason picks.  Also, please feel free to grade me too.

I'm starting out with Chevy just like last time.

Starting off with HMS and my pre-season prediction:

Prediction for HMS - HMS should have 3 cars in the chase again this year, maybe 4, JJ and Jeff should be a lock with either Dale Junior or Mark Martin the third party.

Well Jeff and JJ are locked in the chase and Mark Martin has been bouncing in and out of the top 12. The only disappointment is Dale Junior who is having a less than steller year.  

Grade: B+:  If Mark was in the top 12 at this time I might give myself an A - on this but never an "A" because of Dale's struggles.

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  Mark is in a fight for the Chase slot, and I'm not sure if he will make it or not.  It should be a great battle,  But with 3 wins already if he makes the chase those bonus points could give him a great push for a title.  IF HE MAKES THE CHASE.


Next up RCR:

Here was my presesaon prediction:

Prediction for RCR - RCR should have 2 cars locked into the chase and a third car should make it.  I don't believe they will get all 4 cars in the chase meaning either Mears or Bowyer will not make it.  This season could be a turning point for Casey as Richard's grandson is starting to make his way into the lower NASCAR circuits.


I missed this one by a mile.  Jeff and Clint have an outside chance to make the chase but it is likely that RCR will not have a car in the chase this year.  Kevins year has been a total disappointment and Casey, well he is driving like Casey a 15 - 20 place driver. 

Grade:  D - : Just Because Jeff has an outside shot at the chase keeps me from an "F"

Outlook for the remainder of the season:  Richard needs to shake things up in the shop, and not just crew changes like earlier in the year. He needs to take a long look at his program and find out what is wrong.  His fight with GM for the money they owe him may be affecting this team more than we know.

Next up EGR

My Prediction:

Prediction for EGR - This is a team sorely in need for another full time sponsor for the 8 car.  It is possible that we may see this team close its door at years end.  Montoya and Truex Jr. should battle for a chase spot but right now I'm not sure either will make it.


Juan Montoya is currently in 11th place in the standings and would be in the chase if it started now.  Truex Jr on the other hand is struggling and if that has anything to do with his contract talks no one knows.  As predicted the 8 car had to be shut down because of lack of sponsorship.

Grade:  B , With Montoya fighting for a chase spot, currently in, and Truex having a bad year I gave myself a "B" although a C+ may be more appropriate.

Outlook for the remainder of the Season: Juan will continue to fight for a chase spot and Watkins Glen may be the race to put him in.  Personnelly I wouldn't mind seeing him and a couple of other mid level teams get in and bring the "Big Boys" down a notch.  Martin may be able to turn around his season after it is announced he is moving to MWR as that team can now relax and race.  Aric is poised to move into the 1/8 car next season after Martin leaves.

Last SHR:

Prediction for SHR  I believe Tony will struggle more this year than most will think.  Tony is a great driver and I am a fan of his, my number 2 driver behind Mikey, but I think he will have his plate full trying to keep his car in the top 20 and getting Ryan in the top 25.  Don't look for too much from this team.

Boy I couldn't have been more wrong on this pick nor could I have had such a change in heart for a driver.  Tony is sitting on top of the points and has 2 wins plus the All Star win,  Ryan is a solid 7th in the points and will probably make the chase.  I have flipped on my support of Tony based on his arrogance at Lowes with David Reutimann and the fact that SHR, in my opinion, is an extension of HMS and therefore is skirting the rules.  I know its my opinion and I have nothing to back me on this, but Logic tells me that when someone like Rick is up on Victory Lane with his arm around Tony like he is a teammate then something going on that isn't quite right.

GRADE:  F-  If there was ever a time for an "F -" this would be it.  I was so far off on this prediction that it is kind of a joke:

Outlook for the remainder of the season: It appears that Tony will make a strong run for the fourth title in a row for HMS, um, I mean a strong run for a title in his first season and Ryan will be strong in the chase.  I don't think Tony will win the title this year, but if he does then you can bet the press will be all over it proclaiming him the greatest owner/driver of all time, when he built absolutely nothing of his own. 

Well, there you have it.  I know I'll get bashed by the SHR comments and that's ok, Let me know how you would grade me and as always I would love to see your thoughts on the season and how its progressed so far with each team. 

Category: Auto Racing
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